I've been looking for another one for ME in the woods, my 450G gets stolen all the time for the brush jobs, you've got to be so careful when buying used. My Timbco is starting to get sore feet, Daw track in Germantown told me 23-25k. My father talks about yrs ago buying 2x complete 450 undercarriage's for 10k bucks, they have actually come down a little but but good luck. I see guys running 700H-J's down south cutting wood on long skids and I shake my head, I don't know how they are making any money. if your not lucky it also breaks the clutch housing clutch housing bolts that go thru the side frame. the 2 bolts that go into the side of the track frame same thing. the holes will wear then the bushings cant hold it in place. that either breaks if your lucky only the goofy steel bushings and bolts. rear cross beam will wear the beam and where it goes thru the track frame. it isnt if its when and in the woods when will come quicker.
lets pick on a 450c just because i have had one for 30 yrs. those thing would fly through the woods and no more hand loading a trailer or scoot. that all changed in the late 60's when the 440 skidder started to show up. some mounted to the back of the 350 others on a trailer. then when the 350 came out they could be had with a roto boom loader. and 2010 deere dozers pulling 4ft wood on a trailer loaded by hand. Unless your great uncle Eddy is going to give you one, or you find one for a song ( with a winch) I'd keep looking for a skidder.Īround here in the early 60's it was 420.440.1010. Long story short, it's good for me, I'm using it for myself, I can push dirt, make a mess of my door yard, haul wood, but I wouldn't want to use it to make a living. The pins and bushings are worn, front idlers are worn out, sprockets, rolls and pads are good, but someday I'm going to have to throw some money at it ( like anything). They're still not cheap to buy, I paid 11,500 for mine, I got a 7k bulldozer with with a 4k winch and arch. One problem is even with an arch, the butt of the log isn't very high off the ground and any mud you encounter is going to be all over the logs. One nice thing is the width and maneuverability, you can sneak through some pretty tight spots. It's great in the winter when there is enough snow to cover the rocks and fill in the low spots, I think it would have trouble in 3-4 feet of snow, but a small skidder probably has to work pretty hard in those conditions too. I've got a 450c JD with a winch and arch on it and it will move a good hitch of wood, but as has been mentioned, it's not very pleasant to drive over rocks. If youre gonna do a lot of hardwood stumping go with outside arms and a semi U blade with sharp corners for severing fiber and roots. Remember a 6 way blade, while indeed awesome, is not for brute force. Especially in slippery conditions when youve got to turn up a hill while heavy. I recommend case machines because they have power to both tracks in a turn. a root rake is very helpful for land clearing and drainage. If youll take any stumping jobs consider the biggest dozer you can transport. Skidder could just walk over, and definitely pull wood out faster. It torques the rails and pads pretty hard. Where they do suffer is in big rocks and high stumps. Ive done my ponds, culverts, drainage trenching, road, slab sites and logging with one machine. No one ever said hey how much to build me a pond or stump this pasture to the guy with just a skidder. If logging is slow and you must earn, a dozer can do other jobs. I would absolutely consider a dozer for a small timer without a bunch of money in the bank. I also use it to forward my limbs out for firewood, thats been handy.
It is slow however i can cross a swamp and sink less than a person, nevermind a skidder. I hook chains to the blade and back out, itll do a pair of 30ft long 18" dbh oaks at a time, ive done 55ft whole tree with some struggle. Im logging my property with a wide-pad komatsu d31p-18 and no winch.
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